jackson, oh so now it's SUICIDE

conrad murray, so-called doctor, has declared michael jackson injected himself with extra profonol (sp?) and therefore killed himself in the two minutes murray excused himself to the little boy's room. the word "suicide" was used in the article I read. justification: mj knew he couldn't do the upcoming shows (whoever says).

cm claims he was yapping on the phone in the room with michael (thus "watching" him in a half assed sort of way). he claims michael liked to sleep with the lights on and with cartoons playing on tv.

o.k., shampoo does that sometimes as well... wow, I have something in common with michael jackson... but a person yammering on the phone would be on my nerves. so, I wonder if michael was awake or asleep. (i guess he'd be alseep given the drugs? I don't know much about that sort of thing.)

I don't know what happened to michael, really. but, I don't trust conrad murray. he didn't take good care of michael. he was being paid an enormous sum of money to look after michael, so his job ought to have been his foremost concern especially considering mj's drug use and ill health (underweight, insomniac, etc.).

at this point, i'd have more respect for him if he just confessed to killing michael because that'd at least make him an honest murderer. I have a very low opinion of murderers, but nothing is more disgusting than when they blame the victim.

also, if this is what mj did why did it take so long to call 911? most people, when they realize someone has taken an overdose, call 911 asap. yet murray dropped his cell phone on the floor (with his girlfriend still on it) and started bouncing mj up and down on the mattress (murray's useless "cpr").

murray eventually left the room to get mj's security people and had THEM call 911. by the fact he didn't use the fucking phone in his damn hand he contributed to mj's death.

if he'd instantly called, it'd be different. but, he waited... btw, I strongly feel that he isn't going to get in that much trouble for this. michael's fans need to go ahead and brace themselves.

speaking of which... michael's fans believe mj faked his death. they think he is biding his time before he sends for the kids.

I don't know about that... I don't know if mj would take any chance that his kids could fall into joe's clutches. but, that's just my opinion.

michael jackson, a ladies' man?

apparently, i have missed the most important episode of "good morning america" ever filmed. i just read on wesmirch that three of michael's bodyguards say they drove him around to meet his multiple girlfriends.

they say, "men know men." they don't believe the pedophile rumors and they do believe michael was really interested in his numerous women he was seeing on the downlow.

this begs the question... why didnt michael just marry one of these women at some point? maybe they answered that question.

of course, at the point, with michael being dead anyone can say anything about him. not that this is necessarily the worst rumor ever to come out about him, but i'm just saying.

did i ever tell you about the time that i picked up my drunk slut friend from her rendezvous with michael jackson? it's a fascinating story, i'll tell you that. haha

john lennon, i cant bring myself to watch...

vh1 (or maybe it's mtv... viacom anyway) has a show called "celebrity crime scene." this week: john lennon. even the commercials (when it's mostly a renactment) are creeping me out.

I saw the anna nicole one. btw, howard K. stern and two doctors are on trials nowish due to the fact that had she not been taking chloral hydrate as a sleep aid, she'd still be alive. toxicology showed that it was what made the low doses of other drugs fatal. (hmmm... I wonder if daniel smith so happened to have been "using" it as well?)

they called this an "antiquated sleep aid". they aren't kidding. people have been using it since the 18th century. it's possibly fine if you're not taking valium or something (low doses of 8 other drugs including an antibiotic were in anna's system).

I saw the michael jackson one. his doctor is either the worst doctor ever or he killed michael on purpose. he's on trial so maybe we'll find out.

he did such things like trying to break michael's "addiction to profinol" by loading him down with psychohypnotics (valium, etc.) then giving him the profinol anyway.

then he went and yammered on the phone for an hour. when he strolled back in, he glanced over and noticed michael. so he bounced him around on the mattress doing fake cpr for 20-25 minutes before running to tell security to call 911. (wasnt there a cell phone in this?)

so, and trust me I am NOT a fan of mj, this sounds like straight up murder. michael was not in good health, so this was overkill.

everyone says when they give you this in the hospital, a nurse is assigned to watch your breathing and heart rate the entire time. I have seen this being done. since you're knocked out, the nurse doesn't have to be quiet (although they probably will be) or sitting in the dark. this is the original story dr. murray told the lapd. he's changed it since then.

so, I guess the difference is we all know exactly WHAT killed john lennon. being shot is frequently fatal as is losing a lot of blood. both things happened to john. and we know who was actually holding the gun. what we don't know... they're not going to get into based on what they've said. so, I guess there's no point in watching.

speaking of john lennon ... there's a lot of bringing up how he was killed lately.

conspiracy "theories" are (and have been for years) that this is manchurian candidate murder. I really don't know the conspiracy details on this one, but it stinks pretty badly.

I just hate to see that kind of thing. it's sad and it's so wasteful. I seriously doubt this one is still being truly investigated, so it's just a death renactment. and it's been renacted too much already.

let's try to remember john's life rather than his death (since we can't bring him back) unless there is a good chance to get justice for him.

honestly, I am kind of neutral on john lennon from a fan standpoint ... he seemed nice and he was talented. he's a little like jessica simpson to me (only a much, much better musician, singer, and songwriter), I have no reason to speak ill of him. but, what happened to him was really unfair. if the promos for the show bother me so much, I wonder how his fans feel about it...

of course, not all celebrity crimes are fatal (thankfully). I wonder if they're going to do any of those? that would be interesting because they could get the victim's viewpoint.

an example of what I mean would be what happened to erin andrews with that weirdo peeping tom putting naked pictures of her on the internet. granted, we know she didn't like it one bit. but, what precautions have been taken protect her and other people from this sort of thing? does she have any advice for other victims?

misery for shock value

hln's "showbiz tonight" (the self-proclaimed "most provocative" show) decided to use some celebrity confessions as a basis for a "shocking" show.

now, some of the celebs truly suffered something terrible. whether it happened 100 percent as they now remember (i am not saying they are lying, but this was sustained and extreme abuse so some details may be mixed up with other abuse they endured) whatever the actual details, many of these things are things NO ONE DESERVES EVER.

however, the lifelong behavior of some of these people (all have been famous for decades) show that somewhere along the line something bad happened. in some cases, we even have indications what happened and who did it.

they led off with tapes of michael jackson talking about the abuuse by his asshole father joe jackson. joe jackson is scum and ought to be in jail. period. I don't know if michael would have ever hurt anyone ever if not for joe. because compared to joe, michael was rather gentle. that's not a defense of michael. it is a condemnation of joe.

but, anyone who doesn't believe that joe jackson abuse all (or at least most of his children, i've heard janet was spared... I doubt it, but her abuse may have been less severe because she had several protectors) has not been paying attention.

there is nothing michael could say on those tapes about joe that would surprise me that joe went there. it makes me sick that michael's children have been given to his mother because she didn't protect her own children from joe... why would she protect michael's?

I am not going to repeat exactly what michael said. i'll just point a few words he said. joe had a particular abusive act that he did to michael. michael said "he made it a ritual." now, this is michael jackson only a few years before he died. so he has been mulling this fucked up stuff over for decades.

anyway joe's sick, cruel, pervert self would start beating michael after preparing him in a certain way. as things became more frenzied, katherine would start screaming, "stop it joe! you're going to kill him!" it sounds like before she started screaming, michael had already started to think this may kill him. katharine's screams did not stop joe. they only frightened michael even more. obviously, joe always eventually stopped because michael lived for 50 years. he didn't say how many times he underwent this particular "ritual" and he certainly didn't say that was the only abuse he suffered at the hands of joe. because, of course, it was not.

michael concludes this particular story saying "I hate him." but, I don't think he always felt that way. it would have been easier for him if he had. in fact, michael tells another story where joe regularly lets him know that joe is done with him if he ever stops making money. now, he was a little boy who certainly should not have been responsible for keeping his worthless parents in money.

so, I keep thinking about the christmas tape michael made with his kids (that joe or whoever whored out to the tv shows) where they sing. the kids sing well. I am sure joe is already plotting their music careers.

next shocker, mackenzie phillips, daughter of "papa" john phillips was in an insectuous relationship with her father. people, this chick has been a heroin addict from an extremely young age. she's got clean and gone back many times.

for people who may not know... john phillips is dead. since I said joe jackson belongs in jail, I wanted to clarify why I didn't say the same about j.p.

mackenzie already told us that she started using drugs with her father from a very young age and no one said anything because, hey, it's just "papa john" giving his little girl some smack (or whatever else). she's already said that she, her dad, and mick jagger were doing drugs. her dad left the room and when he came back, the door was closed and she and mick were having sex. so, her dad starts knocking on the door. but, she told the story in a very weird way that made me think she was saying he wanted back into the room, not that he wanted mick to stop fucking his underage daughter. in any case, he knew what happened at some point close in time to the event and mick jagger is still alive so... I never got the idea jp had a problem with him over it.

mackenzie told this story as though that's when she lost her virginity. but, it didn't exactly ring true. I couldn't figure out exactly why because I don't naturally think about insect... so, I am thinking mp was just talking about the first time that wasn't a dark family secret.

from what she says, she came to (she had been using a lot of drugs) having sex with her father. needless to say, this freaked her the fuck out. afterwards, she said something to him about him raping her. he says "we made love." she was a teenager at the time. this is the first time she REMEMBERS. her father may have told her how many times they'd done this before, but he probably started on her much earlier than he said. at any rate, mp very confused then kind of gets into some sort of "consensual" relationship with her and it's all just a really sad mess.

bijou says mackenzie told her about this once. then said it was not true (i don't know how much later) and so when mp said it this time bijou didn't believe her. well, I can certainly understand why bijou wouldn't WANT to believe her. but, I have a feeling, it's not so much she doesn't believe her sister... maybe she just REALLY wanted to believe the lie.

chynna believes mackenzie or, at least, she sticking by her. I get the impression this has something to do with mackenzie that she didn't want to talk about. she says it's really sad. she tried to be as positive as one could possibly be and didn't say anything negative about anyone.

mackenzie's story was surprising because it has some unusual elements to it. but, it's been clear for a long time something is seriously wrong with her. so, it's not surprising that she eventually came out with a horrible story.

ditto with rosie o'donnell. she's just done some weird things here and there that show she's had something bad happen to her early on (shown mostly by very inconsistent behavior). well, she says that she was consistently molested when she was young. her doctor even asked her when she was six if she was "touching" herself. I don't know what she told the doctor, but now she says "it wasn't me." she was pretty vague about the details (which is fine by me). so she may or may not have more to say later.

another thing she said (that they tried to make a huge deal out of) was she called oprah after the columbine shooting. she didn't really know oprah too well, but called her since they both had talk shows. so, she's sobbing to oprah about the need to "do something". she says oprah was nice about it. not really too shocking. they tried to make it sounded as if rosie told some awful secret on oprah. um, this doesn't sound bad?

kathy griffith says her brother was (is?) a pedophile. well, I guess this is shocking as I didn't know she even HAD a brother. I don't recall if this guy is living or dead. they didn't give too much time to this. they were too busy hyping the non-issue with rosie and oprah.

finally, whitney huston tells us SHE AND BOBBY BROWN DID DRUGS TOGETHER!!! OMG!!! hasn't everyone know that for 20 years? I didn't even watch her section. she also claims bobby spit on (or near) her once. this was apparently going to be part of an "abuse" story. I didn't watch it, so who knows.

in what I did see, whitney confessed to using pot and "rock cocaine." er... i'm not exactly a dea agent over here, but isn't "rock cocaine" what some folks call "crack"? didn't whitney herself say she only used expensive drugs as "crack is whack"?

I don't know why I watched any of this. oh yeah, I only have like 10 channels. but, it was a really sad and insensitive show.

kurt cobain & Mind Kontrolle

poor kurt. now people are thinking he was a slave to the agency. I am not one of those people... or at least, i'll say overall no though there seems to be a time period (during his relationship with the horrid skank courtney love) where... possibly, to an extent. but if that's true, it appears he broke free of it before he was murdered.

oh yeah... he was murdered. check justiceforkurt.com for details. thebandinsanity.com has also done a few articles as well. the shampoo listed there is me. I was answering some questions raised the person who wrote one of their articles had. they decided to post it as an article.

there are many places online with information including tapes made by the private investigator courtney hired to (supposedly) find kurt. but not really, of course. because, boy, would kurt have been surprised to find out he was missing! he was living in his own house. I mean, wow, who'd think to look there? um, everybody did and skank kept sending them on wild goose chases.

I really don't know if courtney was working for anyone but herself. I think it is possible (based on things she and people who know her have said), but I don't know who (or what) it is or may have been.

mind control will be called "mk" to save me typing it out.

obviously, there is absolutely no way to know for sure if kurt was mk'd. even if every member of (or formerly with) the agency swore he was not, we still wouldn't know.

IF his body still existed, it might be possible to determine if he was abused in certain ways (i don't know...), but he was cremated with an amazing, mind-boggling, suspicion-inducing quickness and the skank claims someone "stole" what was left of his ashes (sigh, poor kurt, I hope whoever it was respectfully BURIED them).

mk is from a cia project called mkultra. it is a real thing that was brought before congress in the late 70s. a lot of people say the project continued either by a different agency or just under a different name (i don't know).

another important cia project to mkultra is project paperclip (which the cia admitted the true nature of in the early 90s). formerly, they'd just claimed to get nazi rocket scientists. now we know they got other types of scientists as well as high-ranking members of the nazi intelligence network (for their information on the u.s.s.r. supposedly). we weren't the only ones at nazi career day, so i'll give you a moment... yeah, it sucks.

all of this is not secret. the cia has admitted to various things over the years... sometimes because they didn't have any reason to continue keeping it secret, sometimes because they got caught... lots of reasons I don't know about.

if you want to know some of their past projects, they have a website. the goal of the site is to present the agency in a good light, but still. it'll give you some background.

various conspiracy sites have taken the mkultra thing and run with it. whole lists of celebrities are mk'd and all sorts of organizations have joined the party.

I don't know how (or if) this works in reality, but basically people are mk'd via various tortures... electroshock, physical pain, rape, food deprivation, water deprivation, sensory deprivation, isolation, systemic use of drug-induced states, etc. this causes the person to "disassociate" to the point they will form disassociative identity disorder (once called multiple personality disorder) which is a psychosis.

the trick in mk (allegedly) is they drive them crazy in such a specific way that they can then be "programmed" with various functions. some of these only come out when specifically called up by a "handler."

now, it may be possible to do this with some folks, but I would guess a lot of people will just go plain old ordinary crazy (and again, I mean psychotic, as in someone who will find if difficult to impossible to function in society.. being homeless and eating handouts might be too challenging for them). but I really don't know.

what I DO know is brainwashing (as it used to be called) is possible, but it requires unlimited access to a person while greatly restricting their access to people who aren't part of your agenda. some people are more susceptible than others, although drug use can make a person (temporarily) more malleable. but, this doesn't lead to anything as complicated as what people are talking about with mkultra. it will provide you with a person who willingly becomes one of the group and will take orders from the leader. of course, people talking about mk are usually talking about people whose "training" began in very early childhood (although, some adults are mk'd just through drugs, electroshock, etc.), so it's easy to imagine that systematically working with someone from age 2 would lead to more extreme results. but could that person function in society?

kurt has talked about a time after he got married to the skank (i think he actually called her "courtney") when he basically sat around the house using heroin. then, surprisingly (sarcasm), he got tired of this lifeplan and started to cut back on the narcotics and ... by what many people have said courtney encouraged kurt to use heroin as a way to make him more dependent on her. I don't think she actually introduced him to heroin. she certainly did not introduce him to narcotics.

he had used morphine before (he had a prescription) due to extreme stomach pain. his stomach pain was different from most people's and he really did need some heavy duty pain medication to be able to eat, etc.

I used to believe that perhaps this relentless pain caused him to commit suicide, but then I saw an interview where he talks about FINALLY being diagnosed and prescribed medication (a narcotic).

courtney made sure this medication along with all of kurt's guns were confiscated by police. so, is it any wonder that kurt had a bad attitude about the "intervention" where they threatened to fire him from the label because he was using heroin. courtney knew that without his prescription, kurt would start using heroin again.

wait, what about mk? exactly. he sounds a little ornery for someone who is only acting as per his programmer's orders, doesn't he? there are many witnesses to all of this.

the kurt was mk'd people don't really know much about kurt or his music. they say he was used to create "grunge" and encourage apathy. first, kurt did not come up with the name "grunge." second, listen to nirvana, then listen to some other bands from the same time period, exactly. third, the crap (e.g. poison) that was already popular (holding over from the late 80s) encouraged apathy as well as just plain not thinking.

then we have kurt's death versus michael jackson's death. kurt was reviled, character assassinated, and turned into another person as soon as he couldn't speak for himself. in life, he was not a danger to children or anyone else. michael jackson raped countless little boys. yet, we have tribute upon tribute to michael.

after kurt died, nirvana was over. there have been a couple of things released since then, but no one who was IN nirvana tried to capitalize off of it. a good thing because nirvana got dragged down with kurt's character assassination.
michael's whole family has something planned to use him to advanced their own careers. although possibly not his sisters... if kurt got character assassinated, michael got the opposite and has become an hero.

so, if kurt was mk'd I think it was after he got famous and their goal was to get him to just sit around doing nothing until the public lost interest in him.

because it wasn't kurt's music that made people apathetic. it was the awful way he was treated after he died. they may as well have come on tv and said, "look who's finally dead. well, fuck him and fuck you, too." I honestly have never seen anything like it before or since.

I listened to alternative music years before nirvana, but I really loved them. I thought kurt was funny and sarcastic. his interviews were always interesting and sometimes really funny. I still miss him. he would call people out on their ridiculousness and make fun of himself for his own. it was great.